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Feeling disloyal

by stirred but not shaken in

i've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.

after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".

those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.

label licker

Glad you made it here and hope you find encouragement from this site. We found what helped us to get out and stay out was the insight in to the scriptures that the friends here have. Ones like The Searcher, Blondie, Terry, JW Facts, gosh there are so many honest hearted ones to name a few. Now there's one more to add to the list. Looking forward to reading your posts. Welcome!

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New Article: Jehovah's Witnesses and Chosen Ignorance

by daringhart13 in

would love your feedback.

thanks gang!.

http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-chosen-path-of-ignorance .

label licker

Very good! Proverbs 24:12 comes to mind when I was reading your article.

In case you should say: " Look! We did not know of this," will not he himself that is making an estimate of hearts discern it, and he himself that is observing your soul know and certainly pay back to earthling man according to his activity?

Jehovah's witnesses worldwide, please please wake up!

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What do you do when your job makes you wanna puke your face off?

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

i'm talking like makes you physically sick and emotionally frazzled just thinking about it.

i'm talking like you hate it to the point you'd rather go without than work at it just for the money.

you'd live on cheap korean packet noodles for the next year instead of exchanging your labor for this job's money.. well, this is how i feel about teaching and tutoring.

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Julia, the greatest prison people live in, is the fear of what other people think. You have a talent therefore put it to use. Forget what others think and focus on you and your talents. I think the biggest failure we ever saw was not ourselves but the society promoting it and trying to instill it into all of us. They are the failures for we walked away from their abuse. You go girl:)

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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

by pixel in

hello, you read it here first!.

governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

to all congregations.

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I know two months ago I went into bethel with my transcript of my jc and gave it to two brothers in service department. Didn't hear for two months so I called and the idiot said that it would take at least two years to take a look at it since it was sitting in a stack of complaints and the other complaints come first before mine. And yes they are getting tons of letters of complaints coming in but like I was told by someone in bethel, the society is looking after the lawsuits for there are many and us little shits are a waste of their time.

I had even called the branch committee brother and he told me to bring it in and that if there were problems that they would send two brothers to investigate it. He later denied saying that to me over the phone and when I called him back he hung up on me. I couldn't call out for forty minutes.

I don't see this changing anything since our co is around forty and has grown up with all these wicked elders. He's in thick with them all. He didn't want to help me untill he found out I had my jc taped. He was like jeckyle and hyde. All he wanted was the tape which I did not hand over. It's a cult for sure!

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What do you do when your job makes you wanna puke your face off?

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

i'm talking like makes you physically sick and emotionally frazzled just thinking about it.

i'm talking like you hate it to the point you'd rather go without than work at it just for the money.

you'd live on cheap korean packet noodles for the next year instead of exchanging your labor for this job's money.. well, this is how i feel about teaching and tutoring.

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Julia, you have alot going on there. Girl, you have some talent. I was just on your facebook and thought why not a part time art teacher? Could you not open a little studio maybe a few nights or days a week teaching art? Just curious. We live in a touristy town where there's a farmers market in one close town and the same vendors rent shops along the river in two other towns that join together. Could you not take your art even to a market and set up booth with your business cards as well. Over here we have the largest market in Canada along with every town having a market. The booth will cost thirty-five dollars to start and if you need more space then you pay more dollars. Everyone does well here from all the butchers to the flower lady to even the coffee stands. Just a thought. We did the markets for a while along with our shop.

Can people send in pictures of their pets or properties, portraits or whatever and get you to do up a picture for them?

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Ray Franz Emails: Part 3 - Final

by brotherdan in

here is the final email i received from ray prior to his death.. [if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-us</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="--" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!

[endif] .

dear daniel,.

label licker

Thank you so much for this treasure. We're speechless. Wish we could have met him and his wife. Will make sure I pass this on to others.

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Baby Gorillas Born at Bronx Zoo - Video

by cofty in

julia is a 33-year-old gorilla who gave birth to her third baby on march 10, and 19-year-old tuti had her second baby on april 17.. read more.... ....

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Thank you Cofty. Getting ready to go to sleep and this is just what I needed. Pleasant dreams everyone:)

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This weeks study article.....seriously flawed and insensitive reasoning

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so this weeks study article says the following:.

14. how has jehovah been the rescuer of his people?.

14 the psalmist david sang: i am helpless and poor; may jehovah pay attention to me.

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He helps them as a group. Yeah, so they better stay as close to the org(group) or else they will die. That's not even in the bible! Was Jeremiah, the apostles, Abraham, Noah, Isaac, Joseph,Adam, Eve, Daniel, Moses, the two spies, Jesus, the Prophets, David ect,,, in a group when Yehovah helped them???????

The nation of Israel was a group but look what happened to them back then. Or the ten spies. We all have an individual accounting. He puts life and death before us so that we may choose. That's in the bible! People wake up!

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who says apostates are mentally diseased, bad people?

by hoser in

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friends

i had an encounter with a long time fader on a recent business trip.

this regular lurker and sometimes poster on this forum was nothing but kind to me.

i had contacted her and offered to buy her a coffee on my stop in her city but she went out of her way for me.

label licker

Hoser, when we joined the cult, we were already nice people. Those are the people watchtower seems to get. (innocent naive sheep) Why they leave is because they were never mean. You have to be mean in order to follow watchtower's rules in the first place such as shunning and letting someone die.

There is no partiality when it comes to whom we can love. Watchtower would love it for the world to love them only. Show me in the bible where we have to strive for hours on paper in order to be accepted by god. We do kind deeds out of love for others like Yeshuah did. That always came first before his preaching to others.

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Can you take someone with you in Judicial Committee?

by zound in

i've heard of a couple of cases of a person being present (maybe wife, or friend) for support at judicial committees - is this commonly accepted by the elder committee or is it just a rarity?.

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And once bethel knows that you taped your jc, they will not want to get involved with you or your elders. They will lie as well as hang up on you in fear your taping them and yet when you call bethel, they let you know that your phone call is being monitored. They don't realise that when they run from us, they leave us no choice but to take it to the newspapers as well as talk shows. Taping is a protection for you, that's for sure.

They also said that they didn't want my husband in the meeting and I told them that he is staying by my side. They wanted to pull shit on me and without my husband there, I would have been seriously abused more so. I went to my jc to see who my accusers were and have alot of fun when I run into them when they don't have their elders to protect them. I enjoy watching them run as well as put their heads down towards the floor(an elders wife and her mother) out of shame. These elders don't realise the harrassment they have created. We are not going away.